Gary's older brother, Larry, joins us in the guest seat for this episode recorded via Zoom. Larry has a lot of life experiences including serving a career in the US Air Force as a meteorologist. But he mostly discusses "BEER" in this episode, specifically...non-alcoholic brews. Larry has devised his own system for rating NA beers and he shares with us his top pics and also those at the bottom of the pile. It makes for an interesting show.

While Larry might have retired as a Lt. Colonel, he doesn't let that position keep him from entering other professions. He's always been a part of the staff at the Gary & Mark Podcasting University. We're happy to announce that Larry has agreed to take on the position of Dean of our new Central US campus of the GMPU.


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